An independent journalist by the name of Jeremy Hammond recently wrote an article with the title “Answering Tom Cowan’s ‘Five Simple Questions for Virologists’” where he gave his answer to the 5 points originally made by Dr Tom Cowan. After a lot of commentary that was made by various people, I decided to make my own in an attempt to clarify things a bit further to highlight the unproven assumptions that are being made by him and others and also try to correct the seemingly misunderstanding of what people like myself mean when we say that there are no controls in “virology”.
My response
Jeremy Hammond, you said: “Scientists have isolated SARS‑CoV‑2 by taking samples from sick patients, purifying the sample, and then using the resulting virus-containing supernatant for inoculation in cell culture alongside uninfected controls otherwise provided the same treatment. Thus, according to his own stated criteria, SARS‑CoV‑2 has been isolated.”
That is false. Yes, scientists use various filtering methods prior to a tissue culture experiment, but they never ever verify the existence of the alleged “virus” in the filtered sample or ensure that the alleged “virus” is the only thing that exists BEFORE they attempt to do any tissue culture experiment, hence our statement of no isolated and purified “virus”. Now, logic and common sense tell us that we first need to establish the existence of something before we can even attempt to do experiments with it. As an example, we can’t very well do experiments with unicorns unless we have first shown them to exist. We can do this through direct observations of them in nature, not via various indirect methods. The scientific method also demands that we have what we claim to have isolated, i.e., separated from everything else, or the experiment falls short because of too many confounding variables.
It should be noted here that when we are asking for the isolation and purification of an alleged “virus” directly from the fluids of a sick host, we have even gotten a reply from a person at the CDC stating, “The request is outside of what is possible in virology”. Why is it not possible, one may ask? We cannot isolate something that we have never found. Even “virologists” when challenged, which I and many others have done, admit that they haven’t found a “virus” directly from the fluids of a sick host, so on what basis are you or anyone else working on when even the “virologists” are refuting your claim of isolation?
FOIA request to the US CDC regarding documentation of the isolation of SARS-CoV-2
When it comes to the claims of control studies, I think we need to be clear about what we mean when we say there are no controls. We mean the lack of valid or proper controls. There is no detailed description in the actual “isolation” studies of how the controls were set up; it’s just assumed that they are identical by claiming “mock-infected” without actually confirming that this is so. What ingredients were used? What levels were the various ingredients at? For how long was the control run? Were the controls using the same cell line? Were the controls using the exact same ingredients at the exact same levels for the exact same period of time as the main tissue culture experiment? These are not questions where we can just assume the answer; we need these things answered in the studies themselves, and none of these things are answered in the studies themselves.
When various questions regarding controls have been made to the various authors of the studies, what has resulted is either a complete refusal to share the information about how they were set up or that the controls were not set up in the way they should have been, which is identical, with the only difference being that the sample had no alleged “virus” which you again assume by referring to the definition of mock-infected. A good example of this is the documented measles trial with Dr Stefan Lanka, where he won because none of the 6 studies that were presented had proper controls. Why is this important? Because the whole foundation of modern “virology” is based on the Enders paper from 1954 that was refuted by the expert witness because of a lack of proper controls. Even in the Enders paper from 1954 with a limited control, it showed that the same cytopathic effect could not be distinguished from the one with the sample of the alleged measles “virus”. In other words, the effect “virologists” falsely attribute to a “virus” is actually caused by the experimental procedure itself and has nothing to do with any alleged “virus”.
During the measles trials, Dr Lanka also contacted 2 independent laboratories and asked them to do the proper controls that “virologists” have failed to do since 1954, as the head of one of these laboratories summarized:
“Depending on the non-viral and non-infectious substances added, changes in cell morphology could be observed at different times, which since 1954 is always equated with the “isolation” of the “measles virus”. Particularly after the addition of high concentrations of penicillin/streptomycin (20%) or cultivation under deficiency conditions (1% FCS), changes in the cell morphology were found that were microscopically identical to the syncytia formation described as the measles virus.
The studies have clearly shown that syncytia formation is not specific for measles infection. Thus, the forgotten observations of both Enders & Peebles as well as Bech & von Magnus have confirmed that Enders & Peebles and successors proving the existence of a virus with this technique was only assumption.”.
“The measles control experiment told by the head of an independent laboratory in Germany”
https://truthseeker.se/measles-control-experiment-told-by-the-head-of-an-independent-laboratory-in-germany/
We can argue as much as we want about the tissue culture experiments, they are not the core issue here as far as I am concerned. The core issue is that in order for an experiment to even be an experiment we first need to have what we claim to exist in our hands. If I want to do experiments with fairies and unicorns, I first need to prove their existence by observation of them in nature and then have them isolated before I attempt to do experiments with them. So first, we need to establish the existence of “viruses” by direct observation in nature, meaning BEFORE any experimentation or combination with other genetic material like a tissue culture or viral transport medium. Then we need to isolate and purify the alleged “viruses” and have this step actually verified and not just assumed, then and only then can we attempt to do experiments with them, none of which has ever been done.
Thank you for this detailed response to Hammond. You are more even-tempered than I could be. On the (in)validity of the controls, I had taken up that point in his article's comment section, as I had got distressed seeing Hammond patronize Christine Massey and call her FOIA results a "hoax." He seems to be a garden-variety bully.
He's also not very bright. He quickly resorted to his usual tactic of demanding that anyone who fundamentally disagrees with him "demonstrate good faith" by agreeing with his rubbish. Finding no agreement, he banned me.
I'll repeat here my last comment to Hammond:
"You are just gaslighting by repeating your refuted points with more words surrounding them each time. But you can demonstrate some good faith by acknowledging that you materially misquoted Christine Massey by deleting “in the Methods section” from what she wrote.
"You seem keen to promote the belief in the Convid virus. But your arguments are not convincing. If you would like to convince people who disagree with you about, for example, the issue of control experiments in virology, which leads to the larger question of whether virology is a science or pseudoscience, then those people need the details of the alleged control experiments so that they can form their own judgment.
"Thus, at the risk of telling you how to do your job, you could bring forth a full description of Harcourt et al.’s so-called control. What exactly did they do? Where is it described? (Being mentioned in the Results section doesn’t count as a description of a procedure.) Their lab notes on this point would make a good start. Somehow these notes are not being released despite multiple FOIA requests, perhaps because they don’t exist or because they reveal that the controls were nothing of the sort.
"I am by no means telling you what to do. It’s up to you. Ban me from commenting, don’t ban me, it doesn’t matter to me. But don’t be surprised if your claims that “they used a control” are not believed — except by people who already believed them."
Yes from the beginning is was assumed that what couldn't be seen was causing the disease.
If they want to use CPE as evidence clearly they have to do appropriate controls, even the ones they do use are not treated in the same way. An adequate control would be a sample from sick patients with the same severity of symptoms, hopefully containing a similar amount of biologically active substances, though not thought to be sick from 'what couldn't be seen'. Cells are constantly signalling and altering each others gene expression. It's a whole big thing.
Even if only 'what couldn't be seen' caused CPE it still wound't mean it was a virus. It would have to be correlated with all others with 'what couldn't be seen' and not occur in healthy people with 'what couldn't be seen'. Experiments on transmission of both 'what couldn't be seen' and also disease symptoms would also have to be shown between 'hosts' and then from them to other hosts.
Jo